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" deadline less than a week from now. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly at the capital on christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all about the wealthiest americans. his plan would include short term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that had been sought. >>> from hawaii. comes word that president obama will cut short vacation and return to washington later today to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and their families. the president told the marines he was grateful for their service and posed pour pictures. >>> recent college graduates are having a tough time getting jobs in their desired lines of work. according to the latest u.s. census figures about 2 60,000 young adults with college degrees in california are working in food service and retail. >> couldn't get a job in the field that i wanted to so i figured i have to start at the bottom. >> without higher paying jobs, it's that much harder for graduates to pay back student loans weapon tuition rising across the n
are in the senate and it will be up to harry reid and mitch connell and the president to try to come to a compromise to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour notice. they are very much out there in play. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. when the senate returns tomorrow morning, there will be a new e
left for hawaii he had a meeting at the white house with senate majority leader harry reid and seeing both sides dig in on what they want and i think the smaller package, at least before new year's or right around the beginning of the year is probably the best to hope for. right now they're running out of time. lawmakers aren't returning to town, most of them, until tomorrow. the president won't be back until tomorrow and while most rank and file members won't be involved in the day-to-day negotiations of whatever this deal might be, they're going to have to vote for it. you saw right before christmas, speaker john boehner tried to move his own independent plan to raise taxes on income levels over a million dollars and he wasn't able to do that successfully. and i think it was a big sign about the difficulties he'll have even wrangling the majority of his caucus and so i think in order to get something done, anything done, to make sure that taxes don't increase on middle class americans, to make sure that the spending cuts don't start immediately, a lot of lawmakers are leary of them
? basically the ball is in the senate's court? >> all you have to do is look at what harry reid, the leader of the senate has been saying from day one. every time that speaker boehner put forth a common-sense plan to fix this problem, harry reid would say, right off the bat it is doa, dead on arrival. not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope we do. >> let's talk about something a little more bright. the former marine stuck in mexico. if you don't know the story, he was basically trying to go on a surfing trip. an old winnebago and a bunch of surf boards and some sort of antique, torn apart gun that he wanted to use to hunt rabbits and birds.
. the next move will likely fall on democratic senate leader harry reid who is crafting a package on his own. it would extend the bush era tax cuts for households making less than $250,000 a year including the short-term spending cuts. >>> and it is a scary statistic for the recent college graduates. the number of young californians with the degrees working in restaurants or the retail, they have nearly doubled over the last five years. cbs 5 reporter tells us that these are the same people who have expensive college loans to pay off. >> reporter: when you're shopping this holiday season, or eating out, take a look around. you might notice a lot more people under 30 working those jobs. according to the census bureau, there are about 260,000 young adults with college degrees in california, taking work and food service in retail because they can't get anything else. >> it's pretty sad now, yeah. >> reporter: graduating with a computer science degree. >> i graduated with my bachelor's in 2009 and my first job was actually at a retail store at the mall. at first it was kind of embarrassing. >> i
will likely fall on democratic senate leader harry reid. >>> it's a scary statistic for recent college graduates. the number of young californians with degrees working in restaurants or retail has nearly doubled over the last five years. grace lee tells us these are the same people who have expensive college loans to pay off. >> reporter: when you're shopping this holiday season or eating out, take a look around. you might notice a lot more people under 30 working those jobs. according to the census bureau there are about 260,000 young adults with college degrees in california taking work in food service and retail because they can't get anything else. >> pretty sad now. >> reporter: roary graduated with a computer science degree. >> i graduated with my bachelors in 2009 and my first job was at a retail store. at first it was kind of embarrassing. >> i couldn't get a job in the field i wanted to. i figured i have to go to law school to get where i wanted to be. >> reporter: even with a higher degree it is still tough. bill song is still. >> college and he's worried about his future bec
reform on the debt. >> there's talk about a smaller deal by harry reid that would prevent tax increases on those earning less than $250,000. >>> starbucks has come up with a democratic way for people to send a message to washington. the coffee giant is asking the stores to write the words come together on all drinks served tomorrow and friday. >>> well, they invested in a finance company owned by a now infamous baltimore insurance pitch man. now that hal katz business has gone belly up, they're out of luck. investigators continue digging into the story we first brought you in october. some lost college funds, life savings after funding one of katz' companies. >> it's not just a miss proargs of money -- misappropriation of money but a lack of trust. >> how many millions are missing. >>> winter weather is here in maryland and with it a serious skin condition. how to pretext your skin from cracking in the cold. >>> plus, it's time for that after christmas shopping. and, later, running your home on a remote. we'll look at the benefits of using a home automation system. those stories and mor
christmas short. harry reid and democrats expected to lay the groundwork for yet another plan to avoid the looming tax increases and spending cuts. old man winter wiping out the holidays for many people in the country. his work is not done yet. people worried about washington keeping their spending type. time for stocks now. nicole petallides is at the new york stock exchange. nicole: the dow is down about ten points. the s&p pulling back one quarter of 1%. a lot of the retailers loved like the biggest losers. 500 stocks are comprised and represent oriole to autos to airlines. the sector that was really lagging where the retailers. oil has been moving to the upside. there is a lot going on with that. and oil spike of two dollars. now, let's take a look at technology. we do see some of the tech stocks doing pretty well. hewlett-packard and intel have been among the real losers for the year 2012 on the dow. today, you continue to see this trend which is a little better. back to you. dagen: thank you. the senate returning to washington tomorrow. the president, as well. five days left to r
the senate has to act. they can do whatever. we're going to say on vacation. who does harry reid have to negotiate with them? where does he go? >> the president and harry reid can only negotiate so much. >> the question becomes if they can get a bill for 250 and below perhaps with the unemployment insurance attached to it, maybe put in sweetener with the estate tax, could they guarantee that would pass the house of representatives? from the statement we do not know that. >> jared, last week it was speaker boehner himself who could not get his own bill passed, the plan "b." and yet here he is trying to put it back on democrats and the president to get the bill passed making it clear they're not prepared to come back to washington and do anything to avoid the fiscal cliff. what do you think's going to happen? >> well, i thought luke took us eloquently through all the scenarios. but to me this is all simple. it really comes down to this. is john boehner willing to introduce a compromise plan in the house of the type the president offered before he left? extend the tax cuts only for the 2
and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very closely. we did a survey and we got two interesting questions. one that's very tough on republicans. we asked the american people who is the gop fighting for and representing, the number one answer, the rich the number two answer, big business, well back is number three hard-working taxpayers. by them fighting this on the
. peter: everyone looking to leader harry reid and the president for plan c. they were discussing next steps to advert the cliff before the holiday on monday. no update today from the white house. a spokesperson for senator reid is saying "nothing to report. no conversations with republicans let." the spokesperson says "no outreach from any democrats. we are waiting on senate democrats." it looks right now that the cliff remains inside. lori: i heard you talking to dennis kneale earlier. the house generally has to post something for three days. realistically, right, everyone will come back tomorrow, they probably will not have anything by friday. peter: if they do something by friday, the house could vote on something by monday, new year's eve. the weekend could count. absolutely. they can actually do whatever they want. they can vote to waive the rules. yes, they have this three-day rule for making sure all members can read any legislation, any proposal that comes over from the senate. under the constitution, the house sets its own rules. lori: these goucher should have centered on ta
temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to know maybe we have neither. what do you think happens to the market, matt, in either scenario, deal or no deal? >> i can't imagine we're going to get a deal done with any significance. you know, they are probably going to change it as we go forward so maybe they will let us go over the cliff, the market will crash a little bit. i don't want to say crash as in crash but we could retrace some of the gains and a rough start to 2013 until they finally realize that maybe the large-cap companies could be leading us through the rallies. maybe it will take the stocks back up the latter half of 2
standpoint right now. asking harry reid to ask and president obama to act. >> harry reid's his lifeline. let me ask you this. everybody watches politics. this isn't cnbc here, it's politics. let's get a couple things straight. you say right now that today it's a democratic advantage. obama looks like the guy is trying to get it done. republicans are the holdouts. >> it's not just me. look at the gallup reports. republicans have been going down. >> obama's 54%. right now it's a democratic advantage. >> democratic advantage right now. >> midnight monday still a democratic advantage? >> no. if you go over the cliff, everyone's in trouble. >> wednesday morning next week which is only a week away and we're into 2013 and no deal's been made, do you accept the fact that both guys are in trouble? >> i think it's a jump ball. i'm not sure what happens at that point. it depends on what the markets do. we'll say this. president obama doesn't have to worry as much as the members of congress do because he's not on the ballot again. >> but if there's a second recession, doesn't that kill his second term?
. >> thank you, luke. >> so we know now the ball is in the senate's court, emphasis is now on harry reid and mitch mcconnell. seems the house is not in session. johnny isakson, your colleague from georgia said congress should pass the $250,000 and below deal because that's what's going to happen afterwards. do you think that should happen? >> i do not. i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that. however, i talked to some of my democratic colleagues and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because, you know, i'm one who believes you shouldn't tax anyone right now. i would have supported plan b. i think that we've got to come to some terms with the impact that this is going to have and remember the other parts of this, making the child tax credit permanent, the marriage penalty relief permanent. these are things that go with any kind of a threshold that we hopefully could agree on. >>
the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he would essentially dare house and senate republicans to oppose. his legislation would likely extend the bush-era tax cuts for households making less than 250,000 a year. it might also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset for, say, six or eight months, the indiscriminate across-the-board spending cuts that are set to go into effect on january 1. yis bill would also try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax that duds up hitting so many middle class families, and preventing a mbg scheduled drop-off in thdicare reimbursement rates for doctors at the start of the enar. eyre in hawaii, the president has had a low-key christmas with family and friends, but he will omoreaving this state as early as tomorrow to head back to grshington d.c. to put pressure on congress to pass that democratic plan. jim? >> any indications, nancy, where thewhether the
." the pressure is increasing in washington. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly on capitol hill at christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all but the wealthiest americans. his plan would also include short-term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that have been sought. president obama will cut short his hawaiian vacation around return to washington today to take part in those negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and families. the president told marines he was grateful for their service and posed for pictures. >>> more bay area headlines. one of santa's helpers put in a little overtime on christmas but instead of a sleigh and reindeer, san jose postal worker nancy ray used this a mail truck. ray is carrying on a decades old tradition of delivering packages to people on christmas. this is the third year ray has put her sant suit. she started working in the san jose post office 20 years ago and said this is a job she always wanted. >> some books, two things of presents. >> a relatively new christmas tradition
in hawaii. to beat the january 1st deadline senate majority leader harry reid is said to be crafting his own fiscal package. it would extend the bush era tax cuts for households making less than $250,000, extend long-term unemployment, short-term spending cuts, and make a scheduled drop in medicare reimbursement to doctors. house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say william spangler wanted to do much worse. he planned to burn down the entire neighborhood and "do what i like doing best, killing people." the 62-year-old shot at firefighters from a nearby bank. he killed two of them before taking his own life. police found his note and three guns, including a bushmaster rifle
to avert the fiscal cliff is the senate, which returns tomorrow. majority leader harry reid is devising a partial solution that could ease economic fears. >> if we go over in a chaotic fashion, where members of congress are deeply grid locked with no sign of coming together, then we're likely to go over and stay over. and that's very problematic. >> reporter: going over the cliff would restore higher bush era tax rates and trigger deep spending cuts on january 1st. congress set up the harsh mechani mechanism, hoping it would force a compmise, but it hasn't. >> washington remains on square one in the fiscal cliff talks. >> reporter: congress reached this brink before christmas when speaker john boehner failed to get enough house republicans to support his solution, threw up his hands and said it's up to leader reid and the president. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> reporter: aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> what needs to happen now is for a sense of desperation amon
, harry reid, to craft a deal. >> a new ultrasound tool could last blood clots in lungs. >> technology is blamed for the lack of fitness but a company is looking to use the device is to encourage athleticism. >> christmas is over and it is time for the post-holiday sales. >> a discovery getting back to biblical times is under arrest near jerusalem. there were also several sacred vessels. the finds are rare. pope benedict xvi called on catholics to fearlessly support their faith. the pontiff delivered his prayer before a crowd gathered in st. peter's square. he spoke of the first christian murartyrs. the pontiff also expressed support and encouragement of all christians to suffer persecution. nearly 40% of people who suffer from pulmonary embolism face major problems. embolism causes heart to work harder which could lead to heart failure. the usual treatment would be clot-busting madison called = = called tpa. >> it delivers the medications for the catheter but it also has ultrasound energy that helps loosen up the clot and allows the tpa to work faster and more effectively. >> ecos is
is looking to harry reid, the senate democratic leader and the president to make a move here in the standoff, white house and senate democratic staff were discussing steps to avert the cliff monday. we didn't get an update on the status of the conversations from the white house today. a spokesperson for senator reid saying, quote, nothing to report, no conversations with republicans yet. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who can filibuster anything reid proposes, a spokesperson saying, quote, no outream from dems. we are waiting on senate democrats. if nothing's done, january 1st, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve the patch anded medicare doc fix, and other things. the lapse of the tax cuts means the top tax rate reverts to 39.6 from 35% now. taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert to 15% from 10% now, and investors see capital gains rate revert from 20%, revert to 20%, rather from 15% now. depending on what analysis you look at, averag
possible we've learned from sources as senate majority leader harry reid works to get republican support in the senate, which he will need if he's going to pass a bill. and so we're still waiting to see exactly what it will look like that the white house wants for the threshold on income tax rates to cut off at $250,000. we will see if that ultimately is what senate majority leader reid rolls out. as of this point in time, we're expecting this to be a limited measure to deal just really with the fiscal cliff, which was supposed to be appear incentive to deal with the long-term fiscal health of the country. not part of this, obviously looking at a big package. >> can you do this even if everything goes right? getting through the two houses. i don't think the house is anywhere near -- they couldn't get a million collars for the cap of the tax rates expiring. so what is the position of the white house aides and the people are you talking to there in terms much getting a deal done? >> well, the difference would be, and when you remember plan "b" failed. it failed to garner enough support amo
the senate and harry reid but it has to go back to the house. then what? >> the other part is the senate. the 60 vote rule of the filibuster. they have to clear that 60-vote point if somebody blocks this in the senate. then it goes back to the house. there's a lot of questions about whether spiker boehner can control his republican caucus. he could not get the votes a week ago and we don't know if we could this time. what might happen is the tax provisions -- the taxes go up january 1st and then the senate might arrange for then a vote to cut taxes, which is a lot less onerous than to allow taxes to increase or vote to raise taxes. so without getting too far into the weeds they're trying to find a method to prevent the more dangerous economic issues from taking effect but at the same time reduce the political pressure on those, particularly conservatives who don't want to raise taxes. >> we just lowered your taxes, we let it go up then lowered it so we're the good guys. the question i don't think anybody gets, they're coming back tomorrow. the president, congress is coming back from vaca
geithner sent a letter to harry reid, the senate majority leader, saying the united states government will hit its statutory debt limit on december 31st. that is the same day that we would go over the fiscal cliff. now the treasury has certain steps they can take to avoid breaching the debt ceiling that will carry the government through february or march, but at the moment in a technical sense treasury secretary geithner is telling the congress we're hitting the debt ceiling at the end of this year which is the part of the, as i mentioned, part of an effort to get congress to step in and act, not only on the fiscal cliff but on the debt ceiling, bill. >> thanks very much for the breaking news. we'll keep monitoring the situation. thanks, john harwood. a look now at financial sector and whether or not you should put your money in the banks. >> 12 months ago there was a lot of buzz about the regionals, but now it's the big banks that have done really, really well. we have the president and ceo at bell rock capital and jeffrey hart. welcome back. >> cassandra, how did we get that wrong,
cliff" and it turns out not every lawmaker left for the holiday. senate majority leader harry reid had worked on christmas at the capital on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all but the wealthiest americans. his plan would also include short term spending cuts instead of long term deals that had been sought. >>> president obama will cut his hawaiian vacation short today and return to washington to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. >>> holiday sales grew at a weak pace this year. the weakest in four years. mastercard advisors spending pulse reports that sales in the two months before christmas increased .7% over last year. a lot of analysts expected sales to be up 3 or 4%. but wait, there is more. when i worked in retail when i was in college, christmas was busy enough. but the day after christmas? it was unbelievable! cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran is in san leandro where after- christmas shopping has already started. >> reporter: yes, brian. it started at 5:00 this morning at the bay fair center in san leandro. according to a consumer reports poll about 1 in 7 adults wi
to shrink and it's less likely. we are told that senator harry reid is gaming how many republicans would vote for a mini deal and most likely extend the tax rates and those making $250,000 or less. obviously anything that goes forward, they will want to be law. they don't want to do that. he wanted to make sure he can become law. it's unclear whether that could happen right now. where we sit today, days out, the smart money is on us and gives republicans the ability to say we never voted for a tax increase. through congress they put a bill on the floor for 250 and below to pass that to save face. what would that do to the economy? we don't know. the result from that could purr action. >> we spent a lot of time about the tax rates. we haven't talked about the payroll tax. they go up. any idea whether this temporary deal would address those matters as well or is it going to focus on the tax rates and the spending cuts? >> one thing is an extension of unemployment insurance and millions of americans collect unemployment insurance. democrats see it as dimilative for the economy. they buy gro
and possibly be passed. that gets more and more unlikely as time goes by. harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anything on the floor that would not pass out of the senate. then he is asking republicans to vote for a tax increase for no reason. he wants assurances it would go down to the house floor and be gone for a vote. if that were to happen, you would see it passed out of the house with the democrats and as few as 30 or 40 republicans. john boehner stood by this rule that he wants the majority of majority. boehner and president obama have not spoken over the last few days. there seems to be no communication there. for all intents and purposes, there is a 50-50 sign. a lost folks say more likely than not we go over the slif because they cannot afford it. >> if we go over the cliff, there several million americans who that will impact in terms of people unemployment benefits. maybe they have benefits wrapped up in the market. is there an appropriate sense of urgencey and the amount of pain this will cause in some people's lives.
of texas with us. i want to read you what the treasury secretary wrote to harry reid. he said i'm writing to inform you that the statutory debt limit will be reached on december 31. he went on to say that they have special gimmicks they are going to deploy to allow us to go past december 31. we have to tell you that here we are again. nothing is being done. we have no resolution of the fiscal cliff him and we are about to hit our heads on the debt ceiling. what you have to say? >> first off, let's remember that the debt limit is no surprise. the surprise is that he shouldn't be surprised. it's his job to keep track of this. and everybody knew that we are going to run out of money in december. apparently except for him. one of the big secrets during the presidential election, there were a lot of things that the administration kept from the american people. one of the big secrets was that we would hit this debt limit in december. because of the way they have been spending money for that past year. they have $150 trillion in january, remember? we all talked about that. they have blown throug
go up. but cnn is told that senate democratic leader harry reid is privately warning colleagues if he's not sure the president's scaled back bill will pass both houses of congress, he won't even bring it up for a vote. the concern sources say is that a failed vote and going off the fiscal cliff would spook the markets even more. sources in both parties say the most likely scenario at this point is going off the fiscal cliff. why? after january 1st, when everyone's taxes go up, the new congress sworn this on january 3rd could vote to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is our correspondent from washington. you look at this and we're hearing ech
on this. gallup has new numbers showing tremendous poll increases for harry reid and congressional democratic leaders. the real question is can the democrats seize this opportunity to their advantage. >> all right. wewe he to leave it there, gentlemen. thank you for coming on the program. i know it's certainly early. our thanks, of course, to jake and josh. >> thanks. >>> futures will begin trading at the top of the hour. we'll prepare for your market open. so be sure to keep the channel on cnbc. >>> plus, problems for netflix. we'll tell you why the video streaming service may be getting some coal in its stocking this year. >>> if lawmakers do not reach a budget deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, federal taxes will be raised by more than $500 billion in 2013. an average of almost $3,500 per household. or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> welcome back to "worldwide exchange." if you got an ipad mini under the tree this year, you're not alone. the new apple tablet has been in short
defense spending and blame it on the republicans. the problem is we have had harry reid and the senate democrats haven't passed a budget plan in three years and they're looking at just raising taxes. we need to seriously address the spending in this country and we haven't had that from the democrats. we have to have that for things to pass. really get this deficit under control. >> all right. so keith, that was a loud sigh that you just gave. >> you heard that? >> i think everybody at home just heard that. so you obviously do not agree with alice's assessment there. i want to show debbie wasserman-schultz's quote. no 48-notice on house votes just yet. the president has a lot to gain politically with the blame on republicans for letting all of the country go over the cliff and the fact that they seem to hold on with the death grip for millionaires in this country. >> the republicans will be blamed it seems according to the polls going over the fiscal cliff but the president is responsible and wants the deal. he's been trying to negotiate by making reasonable concessions. lowered the rev
to senator harry reid told me there's still a 50/50 chance we get a mini deal that would put off the effects of the cliff at least temporarily and a 50/50 chance of that happening before january 1st. so even though there's a small number of days, sometimes the urgency of a deadline forces lawmakers to overcome differences they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >> yes. and the question about the mini deal would be, what we're talking about, just to make clear for our viewers, would be a temporary extension of tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, a couple of months, for example, a temporary turn-off of the sequester, the automatic cuts equally in defense and nondefense programs that nobody wants to happen, you temporarily turn those off, you extend unemployment benefits, you do something about doctor payments under medicare. if that happens, and clears the senate, there would be a bipartisan majority in the senate if it is allowed to get to the floor, then you would have to hav
, there's a growing debate out there over whether top senate democrat leader harry reid will even have a plan-c to avoid the oncoming fiscal cliff and whether either side is ready to compromise, find some common ground, to keep our paychecks from shrinking as well. peter barnes is fox business network's senior washington correspondent. and he joins us now. peter, what does all this mean specifically for our taxes? >> well, kelly, it means that on january 1st the nation faces about a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming that congress does not approve its annual patch for the so-called alternative minimum tax and the medicare doc fix that prevents deep cuts in medicare payments. the lapse of the bush tax cuts means top rate would revert to 39.6% from the 5% now but it would go up for lowest income earners. reverting from lowest rate to 15% from 10% now. for investors, capital gains rates would revert from 20% to 15% now. depending on the analysis the average family would pay 2,000 to $4,000 more in taxes next year. but, if you'r
, the word we're getting is that harry reid is going to pass an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody under 250,000, extend unemployment benefits for two million folks. um, now, if that happens, it goes to the house, and the house will probably have to put it up. aren't republicans, your party, going to wish that they had passed plan b? >> absolutely, gregg. look, plan b really should have been our plan a, number one. number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't work, the president's going to have egg on his face, right? >> no, not at all. gregg: come on. >> the president has come back with a compromise. the people that have egg on their face
they had to figure out, victor, is whether or not harry reid working with the white house on this can get enough votes from republicans to cross party lines for even a scaled back measure, which the president laid out in general on friday, would just be to keep americans' taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. and to do a couple of other things, unemployment benefits, maybe, maybe extend the estate tax cut, which is -- which is also going to run out, but, again, they're not even -- the senator won't even consider doing this, i'm told, unless he's sure they'll get through the senate and the house because politically they don't think there is any reason for congress to take votes that are just going to fail. also, they that i it will be bad for the markets, even worse for the markets to have failed votes and then go off the fiscal cliff. >> so the idea that john boehner is even having this conference call, discussing the possibility of bringing the house back into order, is that an indication that he's optimistic that there will be something that he could get a few minority
americans to do that need their disability checks and health care must around with by president obama, harry reid, and john boehner. host: here is a twitter message. a lead story in "the washington post." janesville, wisconsin, independent. good morning. what is your level of optimism? caller: i am not very optimistic they will get anything done. i am not optimistic that will find a job. host: what kind of work are you looking for? caller: anything. i cannot even get hired at a retail store because i do not have experience. i have the manufacturing all of my life. i lost my job in 2008. i have updated my skills, and still, no calls. host: when you look at people in washington and what they are dealing with, what goes through your mind? caller: i think they are out of touch with the people. i think the unemployment rate is a lot higher than the what they say it is. host: thank you for calling. steve is calling from troy, michigan. caller: there has been a lot of misrepresentation of the fax. i am not very optimistic for the future of our country. -- misrepresentation of the f acts. taxes will
to vote for revenue increases. they say we have this deal harry reid said the senate won't pick up and ask you to vote for revenue increase or tax hike, a lot of republicans will say hell no to that whereas they might vote for the larger deal that stands for a chance of addressing the fiscal cliff. >> congressman, what is the chance we're doing this in february alling to with t ing i together with the debt ceiling and everything combined. >> that is an interesting question. we are talking about the debt ceiling. here, you will see a slight change in style of congress. there is a camp in the republican camp that says let's do nothing until we get to debt ceiling because that re-established our ledge. there is a movement that the president and congress say we're not going to play hostage again where we get downgraded and the country is on a real cliff and not pay our bills. there is a chance democrats look at republicans, say, fine, don't raise the debt ceiling, the fault of the united states of america will be on your shoulders. i hope we don't get that and get the out-line of a deal in com
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